Organizing our own custom Zako/Henchwomen movie (1 Viewer)
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If all 40 people jump in and it's only $40 each, I'd be in.
I have to say though, uniforms are going to be the make-or-break for me and I seem to be only one of the few that'd like to see bikini bottoms/leotard w/ a tight short-sleeve top.
Skirts are just, "Eh, whatever" for me. Kinda over-done.
I have to say though, uniforms are going to be the make-or-break for me and I seem to be only one of the few that'd like to see bikini bottoms/leotard w/ a tight short-sleeve top.
Skirts are just, "Eh, whatever" for me. Kinda over-done.
Amazon Shark
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I also think Olaf is the best producer to use. His style is most cinematic, and he doesn't do porn or full nudity, which I think most people do not want to see anyway.
He responded to the DS thread on this topic, and he is interested. I think we should go with him once we decide to move forward with the project.
In my opinion, there should be 2 big battles. The first one, the henchwomen are knocked out. The second one, the henchwomen are killed, most likely by gun shot. There should also be some smaller KO's and killings. This would require re-using the same girls, but not to the extent that the Female Combatants movies do. All girls in the first KO battle will eventually be killed in the final battle. The smaller scenes of only a few girls taken out can have them wearing sunglasses or something to make it seem like they are different girls.
Maybe during one of the big battle scenes, the henchwomen get the upper hand and torture or taunt the hero, like after one or two are taken out first; but eventually the hero wins.
It seems, based on the polls, that although skirts is the clear winner, leggings had many, many votes. I think we should have the henchwomen wear 2 uniforms, one during the KO battle, and one during the final battle.
He responded to the DS thread on this topic, and he is interested. I think we should go with him once we decide to move forward with the project.
In my opinion, there should be 2 big battles. The first one, the henchwomen are knocked out. The second one, the henchwomen are killed, most likely by gun shot. There should also be some smaller KO's and killings. This would require re-using the same girls, but not to the extent that the Female Combatants movies do. All girls in the first KO battle will eventually be killed in the final battle. The smaller scenes of only a few girls taken out can have them wearing sunglasses or something to make it seem like they are different girls.
Maybe during one of the big battle scenes, the henchwomen get the upper hand and torture or taunt the hero, like after one or two are taken out first; but eventually the hero wins.
It seems, based on the polls, that although skirts is the clear winner, leggings had many, many votes. I think we should have the henchwomen wear 2 uniforms, one during the KO battle, and one during the final battle.
After reading through all the posts, I would like to express my own opinion:
Why not making an animation?
From above, it is clear that a moive
1 Can't have too many female zakos in one scene, while mass fight and body pile are the most attractive components of zako.
2 Clothes can't vary or it will be too expensive. According to my experience of watching movies adapted from ACG, real clothes are always as fancy as they should be. Not to mention special effects.
3 Action scene may not be ideal. Hiring a number of professional female actresses is extremely expensive. It is hard to trade off beauty, physical ability and number.
4 Is limited in backgrounds. We can afford to build a new background while real one is very likely to be i interpreted by external elements like cars passing by, guys playing basketball etc.
Animation can solve all the problems. We can find some CG team and regular girls as voice actors. It might be easier to improve the quality of cinematic.
For female zakos, I got quite a lot to say. I make it short and brief for now.
1 For clothing, I prefer sexy but also practical dress style. Unpractical dress like high-heeled shoes can be left for bosses. The dress of female fighters should make them seem to be professional fighters, no matter they are military soldiers, gang hatchets, martial artists, Japanese kunoichi or others.
The female fighters from Denjin Makaii 2 is a perfect example.
Middriff tank top is my favorite one. Of course others bodysuit, chesong sam, bikini style armour are fine to increase the variety of zako.
Pants, breeches, long trousers and kitts are all fine. Proper cover up can make female fighters more sexy than completely naked.
Generally, I prefer sports shoes and boots because they are useful for fighting.
Fingerless gloves, bandage on legs or fists, culff and OTV indicate the fight is serious and real. Some of which should be worn by female zakos.
Hair style, top and glasses can vary to make female zakos sligthly different from each other.
2 For fighting style. It is really a little complicated to express. On one hand, I want the fight look real. Most actions are quick, mighty, achievable and essential in the fight. Fighters use whatever they can use to win the fight. On the other hand, I really want it is a hand-to-hand fight. Touching sexy and fit girls' bodies are the marrow of hand-to-hand fight. Guns and swords are too quick and permanent as others speak. If the females zakos are gangers and Chinese martial artists which do not use weapons the problem might be solved.
3 For female zakos. As said in clothing part, these fighters must be professional (not elite of course). They are strong, confident and brave, willing to donate their lives for their course. They will fight to the very last, never escape from battle (unless go to warn others) or beg for mercy.
In the fight, they are concentrating fighters not girls, which means they do not care about their private part. They do not mind showing their pussies when kicking and will cover their breasts when bras are torn during fighting. Generally, they are clam and care each others. They know how to fight together, not just fight hero one by one when others are just wandering around in the background. They care about each other and may sacrifice oneself to make opportunity for others.
Outside the fight, they are still cute girls. They take care of their face, skin and shape well (fighting exercise is one part of this of course). They have their own personal life,depending on their identifications.They do not necessarily to be evil, probably they just have different values, different goals and different leaders, which is not important.
4 For heroes. The hero could be either a muscular male or a conservative female. The male hero is very strong. He defeats cute and sexy girl fighters effectively to present his might as a man. The heroine is what I preferred. A pure, clean girl in neat school or business skirts can make her differ from the large number of sexy girl fighters. She is fully dedicated to her course just like her opponents. A deadly fight on the open square is what I expect.
Since one's turn off might be another's favorite, I just wrote so much for now. I got a lot of saving but am still looking for job so I will see what I can donated when the project plan is proposed.
Why not making an animation?
From above, it is clear that a moive
1 Can't have too many female zakos in one scene, while mass fight and body pile are the most attractive components of zako.
2 Clothes can't vary or it will be too expensive. According to my experience of watching movies adapted from ACG, real clothes are always as fancy as they should be. Not to mention special effects.
3 Action scene may not be ideal. Hiring a number of professional female actresses is extremely expensive. It is hard to trade off beauty, physical ability and number.
4 Is limited in backgrounds. We can afford to build a new background while real one is very likely to be i interpreted by external elements like cars passing by, guys playing basketball etc.
Animation can solve all the problems. We can find some CG team and regular girls as voice actors. It might be easier to improve the quality of cinematic.
For female zakos, I got quite a lot to say. I make it short and brief for now.
1 For clothing, I prefer sexy but also practical dress style. Unpractical dress like high-heeled shoes can be left for bosses. The dress of female fighters should make them seem to be professional fighters, no matter they are military soldiers, gang hatchets, martial artists, Japanese kunoichi or others.
The female fighters from Denjin Makaii 2 is a perfect example.
Middriff tank top is my favorite one. Of course others bodysuit, chesong sam, bikini style armour are fine to increase the variety of zako.
Pants, breeches, long trousers and kitts are all fine. Proper cover up can make female fighters more sexy than completely naked.
Generally, I prefer sports shoes and boots because they are useful for fighting.
Fingerless gloves, bandage on legs or fists, culff and OTV indicate the fight is serious and real. Some of which should be worn by female zakos.
Hair style, top and glasses can vary to make female zakos sligthly different from each other.
2 For fighting style. It is really a little complicated to express. On one hand, I want the fight look real. Most actions are quick, mighty, achievable and essential in the fight. Fighters use whatever they can use to win the fight. On the other hand, I really want it is a hand-to-hand fight. Touching sexy and fit girls' bodies are the marrow of hand-to-hand fight. Guns and swords are too quick and permanent as others speak. If the females zakos are gangers and Chinese martial artists which do not use weapons the problem might be solved.
3 For female zakos. As said in clothing part, these fighters must be professional (not elite of course). They are strong, confident and brave, willing to donate their lives for their course. They will fight to the very last, never escape from battle (unless go to warn others) or beg for mercy.
In the fight, they are concentrating fighters not girls, which means they do not care about their private part. They do not mind showing their pussies when kicking and will cover their breasts when bras are torn during fighting. Generally, they are clam and care each others. They know how to fight together, not just fight hero one by one when others are just wandering around in the background. They care about each other and may sacrifice oneself to make opportunity for others.
Outside the fight, they are still cute girls. They take care of their face, skin and shape well (fighting exercise is one part of this of course). They have their own personal life,depending on their identifications.They do not necessarily to be evil, probably they just have different values, different goals and different leaders, which is not important.
4 For heroes. The hero could be either a muscular male or a conservative female. The male hero is very strong. He defeats cute and sexy girl fighters effectively to present his might as a man. The heroine is what I preferred. A pure, clean girl in neat school or business skirts can make her differ from the large number of sexy girl fighters. She is fully dedicated to her course just like her opponents. A deadly fight on the open square is what I expect.
Since one's turn off might be another's favorite, I just wrote so much for now. I got a lot of saving but am still looking for job so I will see what I can donated when the project plan is proposed.
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Stuelpner_Karl
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The Deadskirts community seems to be the most interested right now, calling for mass killings of similar looking girls wearing uniforms with skirts.
Which would be a pity, since I prefer them to wear "tough mercenary" outfits, have names and personalities and can be followed through the movie.
So how about this scenario:
Heroine vs Villainess with 4 (or more, if it's more actresses) individual and scores of similar henchgirls.
In the first, non-lethal part, the heroine, who carries a computer, is attacked by the four tough mercenary girls, dressed as on the pictures above. She manages to knock them all out, maybe into a bodypile. But the main villainess knocks out the heroine, who is then taken to their stronghold.
There you have numerous guards wearing the skirt uniform, played by the 5 actresses who also appear as the 4 tough girls and the main villainess.
The heroine is tortured to tell the access code to the computer, but remains silent. Then she escapes and starts searching the stronghold for the villainess and the computer. In the process, she can kill the "skirt girls" multiple times and each individual "tough girl" once.
At the end, she has to face the main villainess.
I think, this can be suitable for more members from the Deadskirts, Evilbabes and Ryona communities.
Individual contributors might sponsor one "tough girl", pick the actress and clothes and decide what she does and what's done to her. (Since she are also sponsored by others as "skirt girl", they don't have to pay the full price for an actress.)
Which would be a pity, since I prefer them to wear "tough mercenary" outfits, have names and personalities and can be followed through the movie.
So how about this scenario:
Heroine vs Villainess with 4 (or more, if it's more actresses) individual and scores of similar henchgirls.
In the first, non-lethal part, the heroine, who carries a computer, is attacked by the four tough mercenary girls, dressed as on the pictures above. She manages to knock them all out, maybe into a bodypile. But the main villainess knocks out the heroine, who is then taken to their stronghold.
There you have numerous guards wearing the skirt uniform, played by the 5 actresses who also appear as the 4 tough girls and the main villainess.
The heroine is tortured to tell the access code to the computer, but remains silent. Then she escapes and starts searching the stronghold for the villainess and the computer. In the process, she can kill the "skirt girls" multiple times and each individual "tough girl" once.
At the end, she has to face the main villainess.
I think, this can be suitable for more members from the Deadskirts, Evilbabes and Ryona communities.
Individual contributors might sponsor one "tough girl", pick the actress and clothes and decide what she does and what's done to her. (Since she are also sponsored by others as "skirt girl", they don't have to pay the full price for an actress.)
Minion
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As you said, Deadskirt and Evilbabes community seem much more active. You can c;early see that if you compare your results with the results of my survey (which i did NOT post on Deadskirt or other boards). Only 9 people replied to my survey, and there's a big difference in the results.
Out of the 9 people who replies, NOBODY selected skirts
If the end results are; Girls in skirts waling around and getting shot and killed, then i'm out. sounds too much like Double Take.
Hoping it doesn't. if it does, i'll just go it alone with my own project. I'll be paying close attention to the scenario that's decided on before making my decision.
Stuelpner_Karl
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Looking at minion's survey, I'd prefer
1. Escaping from enemy base
2. Some may live, some may die
3. Mainly unarmed (weapons can be present, but don't play a big role)
4. Mixture of army and civilian
5. No mask
6. Bodypile and thrash canned
7. F vs FFFFF
The demand of most EB fans seems to be different from that of most DS fans. Developing the character before the comeuppance is considered important at EB, but a waste of movie time at DS.
For me, to take part in the project, it's important to create a unique character.
1. Escaping from enemy base
2. Some may live, some may die
3. Mainly unarmed (weapons can be present, but don't play a big role)
4. Mixture of army and civilian
5. No mask
6. Bodypile and thrash canned
7. F vs FFFFF
The demand of most EB fans seems to be different from that of most DS fans. Developing the character before the comeuppance is considered important at EB, but a waste of movie time at DS.
For me, to take part in the project, it's important to create a unique character.
Amazon Shark
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I understand some don't prefer KO's or killings, hell, some don't even want the henchwomen to be defeated at all. But I figured most people are just interested in seeing a dozen of identically dressed henchwomen running around, doing evil, battling the heros, and eventually being taken out, I thought whether they are killed or KO'd would be secondary, as I can enjoy just about any henchwomen scene/movie, as long as they are eventually defeated by KO or killed. The fact that we are organizing a zako/henchwomen movie is the "main" point of all this, is it not??
I think we should keep knocking out the henchwomen for a while, so they can be reused and play the "same" person, and then in the final battle, they all get shot. I don't know how the DS crowd would react to that proposition...
I think we should keep knocking out the henchwomen for a while, so they can be reused and play the "same" person, and then in the final battle, they all get shot. I don't know how the DS crowd would react to that proposition...
Thoughts...
Hello all,
I guess at this point we are seeing exactly what we would expect to see on this sort of collaborative effort, which is that everyone has different preferences and ideas for what should happen. Some of those ideas/preferences are mutually compatible, and others are not.
If we are going to make this custom appeal to as many of us as possible, we will all have to compromise to a certain extent. For example, I strongly prefer the henchwomen to be wearing leggings rather than skirts, but I could still support a custom with skirt-wearing zako if one or two of the zako were wearing something different, or if the zako were to wear different clothing at different points in the movie.
Alternatively, depending on the number of backers we get for this project, we could make plans for more than one custom zako movie, with the understanding that we would all pitch in for each movie. The first movie could incorporate certain ideas/preferences, and a later movie could incorporate those ideas/preferences that were not doable in the first. Who knows, perhaps this whole collaborative custom zako movie thing could become a semi-regular event here at the Zako Forum? :)
- Kimblis
Hello all,
I guess at this point we are seeing exactly what we would expect to see on this sort of collaborative effort, which is that everyone has different preferences and ideas for what should happen. Some of those ideas/preferences are mutually compatible, and others are not.
If we are going to make this custom appeal to as many of us as possible, we will all have to compromise to a certain extent. For example, I strongly prefer the henchwomen to be wearing leggings rather than skirts, but I could still support a custom with skirt-wearing zako if one or two of the zako were wearing something different, or if the zako were to wear different clothing at different points in the movie.
Alternatively, depending on the number of backers we get for this project, we could make plans for more than one custom zako movie, with the understanding that we would all pitch in for each movie. The first movie could incorporate certain ideas/preferences, and a later movie could incorporate those ideas/preferences that were not doable in the first. Who knows, perhaps this whole collaborative custom zako movie thing could become a semi-regular event here at the Zako Forum? :)
- Kimblis
TheCrimsonRisk
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Hello. I don't mean to interrupt the thread, but I wanted to chime in with a vote of support for this whole endeavour. Even though Zako isn't my specialty, I'm proud of our community for getting together to try and create something for themselves and others to enjoy. As you've seen, it's a lot of hard work.
I wish you all luck in being able to compromise while still finding satisfaction in the final product. Don't be afraid to make a few sacrifices. Who knows? You might find certain elements appealing to you that you had never considered before. I know since joining ryonani, I've become a fan of all sorts of ryona (zako included) that I wouldn't have discovered on my own.
Don't give up on this idea. I have faith that you'll be able to figure this out. As Kimblis said, it would be awesome if this became a regular thing. I'll be cheering from the sidelines.
I wish you all luck in being able to compromise while still finding satisfaction in the final product. Don't be afraid to make a few sacrifices. Who knows? You might find certain elements appealing to you that you had never considered before. I know since joining ryonani, I've become a fan of all sorts of ryona (zako included) that I wouldn't have discovered on my own.
Don't give up on this idea. I have faith that you'll be able to figure this out. As Kimblis said, it would be awesome if this became a regular thing. I'll be cheering from the sidelines.
Amazon Shark
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Here is the working script we have so far. This includes elements from just about anyone who commented on any of the threads between DS, EB, and here.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5EIcbioTQOvWXRIdUMtUWVrc2c/edit?usp=sharing
Have a look, we are trying to start figuring out who is going to invest, and how much you are willing to throw. Most people have said they'd throw $150-$200, some said $300. Any amount would be great, if you only want to invest $50 that's fine. But if we can get more than 16 people, that would start bringing the cost down and no one would have to invest as much as $200.
So who is in? Please specify how much you are willing to throw by, say, next week. So far we have 8 people totaling about $1700.
I'm willing to throw $200.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5EIcbioTQOvWXRIdUMtUWVrc2c/edit?usp=sharing
Have a look, we are trying to start figuring out who is going to invest, and how much you are willing to throw. Most people have said they'd throw $150-$200, some said $300. Any amount would be great, if you only want to invest $50 that's fine. But if we can get more than 16 people, that would start bringing the cost down and no one would have to invest as much as $200.
So who is in? Please specify how much you are willing to throw by, say, next week. So far we have 8 people totaling about $1700.
I'm willing to throw $200.
Amazon Shark
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So far from this board:
Amazon Shark - $200
Secteur-X7 - $200
xbeagle - $200
This puts us at $2300. We only need 4 more people to bring the cost for each investor down.
Anyone else?
Amazon Shark - $200
Secteur-X7 - $200
xbeagle - $200
This puts us at $2300. We only need 4 more people to bring the cost for each investor down.
Anyone else?
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MacabeNova
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I feel like I have no right to weigh in, since I can't afford to pony up any dough. But I'm of the belief that leotards and catsuits are how zako work best. Uniforms of the future, that sort of thing. But I will probably buy your finished product, though...
Minion
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Unfortunately I have to agree. The uniforms Sound too standard and done many times before (girls getting shot wearing skirts).
This has wondered very far from how i originally imagined.
My original idea;
- Spandex/tight uniform,
- Hand to hand combat
- No killing
Current idea;
- Skirts,
- Mostly Guns
- Female slaughter (except one)
This just goes to show that everyone's into different things.
I wish you all the best. But I'll consider my own personal custom in the future
This has wondered very far from how i originally imagined.
My original idea;
- Spandex/tight uniform,
- Hand to hand combat
- No killing
Current idea;
- Skirts,
- Mostly Guns
- Female slaughter (except one)
This just goes to show that everyone's into different things.
I wish you all the best. But I'll consider my own personal custom in the future
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Amazon Shark
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If you read the script, the "elite guards" scene has hand-to-hand combat, and with the girls wearing a tight outfit (no skirts).
The DS guys became the majority, and contributed more ideas than here or at EB. I pushed for more KO's, and there are some throughout the script.
The DS guys became the majority, and contributed more ideas than here or at EB. I pushed for more KO's, and there are some throughout the script.
Minion
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I noticed that the DS community have more members and were particularly active. This website is actually quit difficult to find (I only recently found out about it because i never heard of "RYONANI" or "ZAKO" until recently)
The problem i saw with advertising this over many different forums is that
- This forum is mostly about ZAKO, girls who attack in numbers but are easily taken down.
- Evil Babes has a large "evil babes beating men" fanbase
- Deadskirt (obviously) is all about women dying
Almost impossible on getting agreements across such a wide scope of interests, each forum is dedicated to a specific thing.
I'll keep people posted on my own custom once my financial situations are a bit better (getting married in a few months, who knew a even a simple wedding cake could be so F***ing expensive)
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