video piracy and other discussion (1 Viewer)

[oneofone]

Or you can just keep arguing with me. You have been pulled into what you're trying to make me not do, argue on the board. Lololol. Welcome to the Dark Side.

 

[Laura.c]

I was talking about "them" when I said "you." Not you, Laura C. Look, I get your point, I respect it. But I am going to retort everything you say. It is part of the gimmick. So, with that said can I make you a character in one of my photostories? I have a 3D model that looks just like your avatar.

Yeah You can if you like, I would like to see it :)

 

[oneofone]

Hell yeah!

 

[Weoooo]

Yes, I'm the mad one, making a one off "dude the heck you think you're gonna find on a fetish board" comment

This is a niche of a niche, and often times there's a whole other niche in there too. The idea that any of us are all prickly towards one another is insane. It's not rare in these places, I watched a thread tear itself apart over someone calling a model "fuckin' hot" a long time ago, but fo real just roll with what you find in a place like this. If you think something's breaking the rules, send a PM to a mod and they'll take care of it.

 

[The ZIL Organization]

the thing with the free content, especially in drawing stuff is...It's isn't free, for most professional they pay drawing stuff (tablet, color...) and most important they gave a lot of TIME for It and it's their only way of income...If we support we can have more of their stuff and they can see that we support.
For example the furry communities is know as the one who pay the most for their commission, a lot of artist is taught that for easy money they have to take commission from furrys (even if they doesn't like in the first place )

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the term furry communities/ furrys.

But definitely, I don't pirate from people who have posted work on patreon. That means less sexy Agent Aika or Dirty Pair related pictures for me, but that's fair. I don't pay, I don't get.

That said, the thing with free content is also that in order to make a fair income, people do have to first put in a lot of hours and get lots of comments and attention. Before you becoming an artist deserving of commissions, you really need to make, what, 100 drawings of each type that you want to excel in? You can't just say, I am an expert at Warcraft combat drawings, so I can definitely do commissions of sexy female combat. That's nonsense. You know that an expert at Warcraft drawings can't do architectural drawings or portrait painting because he's not experienced in these genres. It's akin to asking me, with plenty of experience writing hental porn fantasies, to write shojo novels.

What I really hate are people who don't put in the hours and want to charge money. I've been burnt before and got tied up in disputes, so I will fund no such art anymore. Fact is, not every good or pro artist can actually draw what you want. EG somebody can draw a bunch of RPG characters damn well, but their panty shots look like crap.

So long before someone charges money to draw panty shots, he will have to practice doing panty shots. His first ten, twenty attempts probably look crude and out of proportion. These can be posted for free on deviantart for comments. The date stamps really tell us how far the artist is developing. I strongly advise potential patrons not to commission until they can see that someone's latest drawings in the same theme, have matured and are worthy of payment.

NEVER assume that a Warcraft artist can do upskirts just because he's so damn good at Warcraft sexy elves. Even worse, some of these artists are damn arrogant. Because they've been praised so much drawing fantasy drawings, they don't bother to study how other people draw upskirts, and their proportions look funny, and they just scribble something and try to pass off a first draft as a commissioned work for the money. I really hate such people.

So it comes down to interest again. UNLESS an artist really is interested in the theme enough to draw it many times and improve, I strongly discourage you commissioning work from him. An artist who is really interested, will have produced at least 100 drafts of his doujinshi and other sexy drawings even if nobody offered to pay him money. You can see all the free content you like, and if you have spare cash you can do that commission.

I have no doubt that Jacky-nee-san of Human High-Light film really is interested in themes that I like. If I won $100m in the lottery, I would definitely offer him a full time, six figure paying job to make doujinshi for me... I guess I can fantasize on.

 

[JoanCujoh]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand the term furry communities/ furrys.

But definitely, I don't pirate from people who have posted work on patreon. That means less sexy Agent Aika or Dirty Pair related pictures for me, but that's fair. I don't pay, I don't get.

That said, the thing with free content is also that in order to make a fair income, people do have to first put in a lot of hours and get lots of comments and attention. Before you becoming an artist deserving of commissions, you really need to make, what, 100 drawings of each type that you want to excel in? You can't just say, I am an expert at Warcraft combat drawings, so I can definitely do commissions of sexy female combat. That's nonsense. You know that an expert at Warcraft drawings can't do architectural drawings or portrait painting because he's not experienced in these genres. It's akin to asking me, with plenty of experience writing hental porn fantasies, to write shojo novels.

What I really hate are people who don't put in the hours and want to charge money. I've been burnt before and got tied up in disputes, so I will fund no such art anymore. Fact is, not every good or pro artist can actually draw what you want. EG somebody can draw a bunch of RPG characters damn well, but their panty shots look like crap.

So long before someone charges money to draw panty shots, he will have to practice doing panty shots. His first ten, twenty attempts probably look crude and out of proportion. These can be posted for free on deviantart for comments. The date stamps really tell us how far the artist is developing. I strongly advise potential patrons not to commission until they can see that someone's latest drawings in the same theme, have matured and are worthy of payment.

NEVER assume that a Warcraft artist can do upskirts just because he's so damn good at Warcraft sexy elves. Even worse, some of these artists are damn arrogant. Because they've been praised so much drawing fantasy drawings, they don't bother to study how other people draw upskirts, and their proportions look funny, and they just scribble something and try to pass off a first draft as a commissioned work for the money. I really hate such people.

So it comes down to interest again. UNLESS an artist really is interested in the theme enough to draw it many times and improve, I strongly discourage you commissioning work from him. An artist who is really interested, will have produced at least 100 drafts of his doujinshi and other sexy drawings even if nobody offered to pay him money. You can see all the free content you like, and if you have spare cash you can do that commission.

I have no doubt that Jacky-nee-san of Human High-Light film really is interested in themes that I like. If I won $100m in the lottery, I would definitely offer him a full time, six figure paying job to make doujinshi for me... I guess I can fantasize on.

You don't know what a furry is? well you're lucky

And of course you will not ask a random or a guy who draw psychedelic stuff to do a zako drawing, you have to see is art first...but the guy has to live some way, so that's why their is a thing like patreon to help and i'm actually ok with what you say, but just this " I want free content, from people who enjoy drawing and putting their illustrations out for public viewing. " you need to help this kind of guy/gal, with comment and/or money do what I do..I keep 15€ for month and at the end of every month you buy a doujinshi/hentai/boys love (I don't care, everything that you like) but that way you show your support and with that he will draw more of that for attention of people like us (even if this thread is more on video piracy than drawing but you get the idea ;) )

 

[wj1905]

Nah, you can post anything here, as far as I know, regardless if it is paid content or not.
Sadly, cannot find this empty quiver one anywhere. Check on Motherless for keywords, maybe you can find it - sadly people usually upload with nonsense character names instead of the real title.

 

[Weoooo]

Nah, you can post anything here, as far as I know, regardless if it is paid content or not.
Sadly, cannot find this empty quiver one anywhere. Check on Motherless for keywords, maybe you can find it - sadly people usually upload with nonsense character names instead of the real title.

Once you're this deep in the weeds it's hard to find what you're looking for, cause the pool of uploaders is small enough that DMCAs are pretty easy to get into place.

 

[Weoooo]

Another issue, one that I understand but also is incredibly frustrating that it can be hard to even buy the things you want when you're this deep in. Nicheclips makes you send 20 bucks in cash, a check, or a money order to their physical office to even start looking at titles. Kinda skeevy russian collectives of vids want you to send credit card info over to them so they can manually add money to your account, or use bitcoins. Or you send them e-mails where you have to write out what you want and they tell you how to buy them. It's genuinely way easier, less embarrassing, and safer to just look around the dark corners of upload sites and try and find something.

 

[Sausage&Eggs]

Piracy is bad and piracy is too common. If less piracy then perhaps more high quality content will be make but sadly people are selfish.

I think piracy of adult game to be bad specificly. The good adult game is few and some developer must take short cut to reuse asset in order to try and make better money. People do not feel porn has value even though game has good value and item such as a ice cream which you enjoy once and consumed already is about same price.

I think when some kids desire to play adult game maybe they have no income. Maybe they have money but no method to pay. Maybe a lot of people simple do not know how to buy adult game legal method since adult game on steam still new and less known is dlsite, nutaku, dmm, mangagamer, etc.

What make me even more disappoint is not the people who pirate but those who take game and share with other for profit. Common method is through shit download site. For example, I take illusion game with file size of 3gb. I upload to website like rapidgator. I split 3gb into 200mb file and get 15 file total. This mean 15 download for 1 game.
Each file that has 10 dl rapidgator maybe pay me $0.1 (using this number for example to show method). When 10 people have download this game I have $1.50 from all 15 file.
Some people might dislike slow download speed and will pay small fee to get faster download and multiple file download. When this happen often I get commission from user signing up.
The developer not only loss profit but their game being use to make money by other. It is sad state.
Even more stupid is these people also repeat same thing for free game. I see Sierra Lee's Last Sovereign for example sometime. She never charge for this and you can download free, most update from faster websites in single file.

 

[Weoooo]

Oh yeah, there's tons of secondary economies around these things. They take advantage of the fact that most people don't know where to get good torrents of things, and the fact that no one's really patient when they're trying to masturbate. It's a black market that I think a lot of people don't know they're entering, they're just trying to find DDLs of games they heard about.

 

[The ZIL Organization]

Piracy is bad and piracy is too common. If less piracy then perhaps more high quality content will be make but sadly people are selfish.

I think piracy of adult game to be bad specificly... e.

You are one hundred percent correct. It is disgusting that people like Kim Dotcom and websites like his (not going to name that name) make money off people selling pirated content. It is a criminal act, and should be punished by jail terms. Funny thing is, if I walked into any Trump Hotel and attempted to make off with their $300 TV, the police would come after me. But Kim Dotcom can get away with helping people pirate literally $3b worth of intellectual property every day.

I have no such membership and never will pay for such memberships. As what I've said in this thread (and elsewhere), I don't have the money and don't really want to pay for content. But I will only go for voluntarily created content. There is so much free porn in the world, you don't need to pirate anybody's stuff to enjoy yourself. Let's put it this way, if I jerked off to 1000 new freely created porn doujinshi every day, I could live to 120 years old, and even if I could still jerk off at the age of 120, I would still not run out of new freely created porn pictures to look at.

I understand that many awesome Japanese games (adult and otherwise) are indeed pirated. I wish that appropriate systems could be put into place to ensure that everybody who plays, gets to pay. If everyone was forced to pay, prices could come down. You could literally lower the cost of a game by 80%, and the copyright owners would still make 200% more income, since at least 90% of all games are pirated.

And frankly, if game costs went down by 80%, a lot of people in poor countries like Bangladesh would be able to afford these games. So the market would expand tenfold. Which means win-win for everybody, the creator and the middlemen and the gamers alike.

You already have this system in some libraries. They pay a tiny commission to any author whose books get borrowed. So a popular author will still make a decent paycheck when books are borrowed not bought.

If everyone who played the games like Fate/Zero or Danganronpa had to pay, I bet we would get more good creators, and more such content. I'm not interested in paying for these games nor in playing them, but I do watch the anime, so I have a strong interest in good games which are popular which will support good anime which pays for itself (on my local TV channels) with ads. And btw, I do respond to ads. The main problem with ads is poor targeting, not with users being unwilling to buy. Anime like Danganronpa isn't really for the kids, so please don't advertise toys when Danganronpa is airing. I happen to be a big buyer of delivery food for my employer, so anytime there is a fast food offer on TV, it really results in me paying substantial cash to the advertiser.