WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 8.9 3/27/19) Added Sister (2 Viewers)

[WeeWillie]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Will there be more girls in slave bazaar?

My goal is to ultimately do lots. A single girl is quite large though, and takes many hours of writing to make. I'm not sure when I'll have the next one, but I'll release a new alpha when I do. Right now I've started working on Crystal, the crazy emo girl. But there has been recent interest from some people in a unwilling captive, perhaps a daughter of some rich fellow? Since that is my personal preference, I might switch to that girl instead. But I still make this more for you guys than for myself, so any other votes out there?

 

[EpicDT-Hunter1]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Hi WeeWilli.

Im messing around with some problems and thought you may help me with it.

As i wrote in a post i am trying to change the charakter apperiance in the the charakter text documents with the editor. So im runned pretty well so far with Girl0 text data and changed her skin,Hair,top,eyes,eyeshadow,ears,nose successfully so far. But somehow im not able to change the lipstickcolor,bottomcollor only the first collorpart the second works (smallskirtbelt), blush (only A-Value, the other worked I tryed 124 and 1.24 it always resetes to 255) , and finally the Earringcolor (works nothing). And i always see in the upper right corner appearing ,,modloding failed" rapidly and disappearing right after (I tryed using the Repair button but it dont helped).

Hope you may explain me shortly for a noob how this things work so I can help my self in the future.

I would very much appreciate it Sir.

 

[WeeWillie]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Hope you may explain me shortly for a noob how this things work so I can help my self in the future.

The easiest way to change a character appearance is to bring up the scene tab and use the menu to select all the clothing and colors you'd like. Then go to the Modding tab and choose Generate Custom Save data. Copy that text out from the box, then paste it into the "da.charcode.load": section of the dialogue line. Not sure if that helps with your question?

 

[bozonl]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

I just want to say thanks for continuing your great work! *thumbs up*!! ;D

 

[ClimaxTitan]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

This is awesome! The menus are so much better than the "pull up" and "pull down" branch trick. I didn't realize this was even possible.

My only complaint is that it isn't intuitive to raise the love rating. I know you can get a nice boost by buying Plexia her demon outfit, but to get up to 90+ I couldn't figure out a good way to do it since compliments only work under certain conditions and everything else seemed to be hit or miss whether it raised or lowered love. I ended up farming love by complimenting her, starting to throat her, going back to the foyer, and repeating. Hints or making more intuitive ways to increase love would be great.

Keep it up! I look forward to playing with the other girls too. :)

 

[WeeWillie]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

My only complaint is that it isn't intuitive to raise the love rating. I know you can get a nice boost by buying Plexia her demon outfit, but to get up to 90+ I couldn't figure out a good way to do it since compliments only work under certain conditions and everything else seemed to be hit or miss whether it raised or lowered love. I ended up farming love by complimenting her, starting to throat her, going back to the foyer, and repeating. Hints or making more intuitive ways to increase love would be great.

That's good feedback. I'm not sure how I want to handle the issue of players not understanding how things work. Should Talia give hints? Should players just experiment like you did? Here's a question for you. What do you think should raise Plexia's love for you? She's a pissed off demon who wants to be free. While unbroken, she doesn't want to be used. It would seem that most things that would make her love you more would also raise her pride, sand she won't break until her pride is zero. Do you have any thoughts?

FYI, the primary way you are meant to get her love up is to buy her gifts. It does make her a bit petty, but hey, she's a demon. So, the main method I expected player to use to break her as a docile slave was to get two slaves so you don't have to pimp out Plexia. You then have Crystal work her tush off making money, which you then spend on clothes for Plexia. You'll need to play with Plexia a bit so that more customers will arrive at the Foyer, but that also gives you chances to encourage her with compliments more. I wanted Plexia to have a will, so she shouldn't just fall in love in one session. Also, it's supposed to be harder to break her as a docile slave. She's a pain slut at heart :)

 

[liiixp]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

One word: awesome.
Increasingly satisfied with updates.
keep it up ;)

 

[Huitznahua]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

I've never been a big fan of the "slave master trip" but I just quickly test your slaver bazaar and it is really amazing. It looks like a "sims date rpg" but much more promising. Congratulations !!!

 

[aztlan]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Here's a question for you. What do you think should raise Plexia's love for you? She's a pissed off demon who wants to be free. While unbroken, she doesn't want to be used. It would seem that most things that would make her love you more would also raise her pride, sand she won't break until her pride is zero. Do you have any thoughts?

FYI, the primary way you are meant to get her love up is to buy her gifts. It does make her a bit petty, but hey, she's a demon. So, the main method I expected player to use to break her as a docile slave was to get two slaves so you don't have to pimp out Plexia. You then have Crystal work her tush off making money, which you then spend on clothes for Plexia. You'll need to play with Plexia a bit so that more customers will arrive at the Foyer, but that also gives you chances to encourage her with compliments more. I wanted Plexia to have a will, so she shouldn't just fall in love in one session. Also, it's supposed to be harder to break her as a docile slave. She's a pain slut at heart :)

What about if she's also a bit a of a sadist too. Maybe you could buy her a strap-on (or futa outfit) and then buy her a slave to enjoy. Of course that might raise her pride - so you could do a version of Dante's Futa Humper with her in the middle - her love goes up from you buying her a slave - but her pride stays down because your humping her at the same time.

Another alternative might be a dildo - if you buy he one it will increase her love when you let her use it.

 

[gekker]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Will there be more girls in slave bazaar?

My goal is to ultimately do lots. A single girl is quite large though, and takes many hours of writing to make. I'm not sure when I'll have the next one, but I'll release a new alpha when I do. Right now I've started working on Crystal, the crazy emo girl. But there has been recent interest from some people in a unwilling captive, perhaps a daughter of some rich fellow? Since that is my personal preference, I might switch to that girl instead. But I still make this more for you guys than for myself, so any other votes out there?

I think just doing the mods is pretty generous. If you want to use your creative juices on your characters you prefer to bring in that is cool with me.

So will she be a spoiled rich girl, sheltered delicate pampered princess, something in the middle?

 

[astounded]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)


....Right now I've started working on Crystal, the crazy emo girl. But there has been recent interest from some people in a unwilling captive, perhaps a daughter of some rich fellow? Since that is my personal preference, I might switch to that girl instead. But I still make this more for you guys than for myself, so any other votes out there?
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My vote is for the unwilling daughter.

 

[ClimaxTitan]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

A hint that Plexia isn't going to like you when you buy her would help, because knowing there's a love stat and a way to break her into a docile servant makes it feel counterintuitive when you can't get her to like you. Once there are more slaves, if there are others that like you easier, that would help the player discover how it works himself.

I'm spitballing here and I'm not sure how much branching you can pull off, but since Talia tells you she's masochistic, maybe once you get Plexia aroused (60+?) then something like mixing pain (slapping, holding her down, anal, maybe whipping if she's really that masochistic) and compliments together could raise her love in small amounts, while leaving the majority of it to buying her gifts.

 

[Bruce]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

First: Thanks for your amazing dialogue!

Dunno if I'm the only one with this problem, except for the generic comments, fuck/anal comments are nearly never played. They do seem to work but it almost seems like some of the selectors do not work as intended (giving no line instead of playing one of the possible lines). This makes her stay silent until he came like 3 times if I comment out the FuckAnalThought lines. This behavior is a little erratic, I also sometimes see "him" boxes pop up very very briefly but then there is a moaning line played. Maybe the division method in the argument doesn't work?

Another question: Is there an easy way to make him stay longer in those positions and is there a way to increase resistance for anal?

 

[WeeWillie]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

First: Thanks for your amazing dialogue!

Dunno if I'm the only one with this problem, except for the generic comments, fuck/anal comments are nearly never played. They do seem to work but it almost seems like some of the selectors do not work as intended (giving no line instead of playing one of the possible lines). This makes her stay silent until he came like 3 times if I comment out the FuckAnalThought lines. This behavior is a little erratic, I also sometimes see "him" boxes pop up very very briefly but then there is a moaning line played. Maybe the division method in the argument doesn't work?

Another question: Is there an easy way to make him stay longer in those positions and is there a way to increase resistance for anal?

Have you grabbed my whole bundle? It sounds to me like animtools isn't working for you, or that you have an older version of animtools. Her fuck/anal thoughts are off the vigorous lines, which require a proper setting in the animtools position files. Also, the anal does have a larger resistance than fuck by far. It shouldn't slip in easy, at least at the start. I'd try deleting the bundle (or renaming) and get a fresh install and see if the problem persists.

 

[Bruce]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Have you grabbed my whole bundle? It sounds to me like animtools isn't working for you, or that you have an older version of animtools. [...] I'd try deleting the bundle (or renaming) and get a fresh install and see if the problem persists.

I did this several times. I'm using flash player SA 13, my hardware is high end and I'm running win 7 as admin without UAC.

Her fuck/anal thoughts are off the vigorous lines.

Maybe that's the cause? I did try to trigger them without changing anything in the options, and tried several different patterns. They do trigger but infrequently, about 1 out of 3 or 4 comments are from the fuck/analcomment section, the rest are fuckanalthoughts. In that section only 1/5 may lead to her actually saying something (since he cums fast, max once per his orgasm).

I also only managed to trigger push comments once out of several tries, they rarely if ever trigger for me. Personally I would love if that was all she thought and talked about when pushed.

Also, the anal does have a larger resistance than fuck by far. It shouldn't slip in easy, at least at the start.

It does, I would just like to raise the resistance for personal preference :)

Another small though: I think her love related comments trigger too frequently, especially during whipping. It's generally a stat that doesn't change fast. During whipping, about 1/3 of the comments are about the whipping, 1/3 of the comments are about her arousal and 1/3 of the comments are about affection. Imho it would generally make sense if she only mentions affection once or twice during the whole session (by using a variable).

 

[WeeWillie]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

Maybe that's the cause? I did try to trigger them without changing anything in the options, and tried several different patterns. They do trigger but infrequently, about 1 out of 3 or 4 comments are from the fuck/analcomment section, the rest are fuckanalthoughts. In that section only 1/5 may lead to her actually saying something (since he cums fast, max once per his orgasm).

It sounds like this is working by design. The fuck/analthoughts section are very repeatable, since they aren't very unique or distinct. When you get a more unique line (the 1 out of 3 or 4 comments), then her pride, love and arousal may have changed by a larger amount. If I ran the fuck/anal comment lines all the time, she would quickly repeat herself in an odd/ noticeable ways (or I'd have to write a ton more lines. I'd always like to add more lines, it just takes work. Maybe this is a section that would be worth the effort). Also, her pride/love/arousal would change more quickly than I'd like. I don't want to reward players for just getting her in a fucking position and breaking her only through that. She gets used to an activity, so to change her mood, you need to switch things up. When you see common thought lines and aren't getting more distinct lines, you know its time to move to a new activity.
As for how quickly he cums, I'm not sure if you are cumming faster than I intended, or if it is your personal taste. If you timed it, how fast does your character go from 0 to cumming when fucking? I've gotten feedback from others that they don't want to be doing the same mouse strokes for a long time, so I'm trying to average out the pacing to satisfy the most people.

I also only managed to trigger push comments once out of several tries, they rarely if ever trigger for me. Personally I would love if that was all she thought and talked about when pushed.

The push line trigger is out of my control. That's animtools that fires the line. I can't make the line fire any more or less. Once her resistance goes down, it seems the that push events no longer fire, and I can only process the line when it does fire. For non-push fucking, there isn't even a line type. The way I get the fucking lines to fire is to set up the position in animtools to be very sensitive to vigorous. The smallest movement will make vigorous go to 100, which makes the vigorous line type fire. It's kind of a hack, but SDT wasn't really made for this level of scripting. It's SuperDeepThroat, not SuperAssFuck :).

Another small though: I think her love related comments trigger too frequently, especially during whipping. It's generally a stat that doesn't change fast. During whipping, about 1/3 of the comments are about the whipping, 1/3 of the comments are about her arousal and 1/3 of the comments are about affection. Imho it would generally make sense if she only mentions affection once or twice during the whole session (by using a variable).

That's good feedback. I'll see if I can tone that down a bit. Sadly, using a flag to only have her mention it once per whip session would be difficult as currently implemented, but I could just lower the odds of her saying those lines to happen less often.

Thanks so much for the detailed feedback. It's awesome!

 

[sby]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

if the 'push' lines are what i think they are, bodycontactspaceheldpush lines should trigger when the spacebar is used to force past her resistance point. this resistance point starts shallow and moves in over time as determined by the animtools position.

 

[WeeWillie]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

if the 'push' lines are what i think they are, bodycontactspaceheldpush lines should trigger when the spacebar is used to force past her resistance point. this resistance point starts shallow and moves in over time as determined by the animtools position.

Correct, and they go away once the resistance is gotten through. Once that happens, the space bar is meaningless, so I can't differentiate between "pushing in hard" versus "regular strokes". Also, the push lines get mixed in with the vigorous lines too, so there's a small window when push lines will fire and they'll only fire some of the time. I could set the resistance to be much longer, but firstly, that would feel weird (I mean, how tight is she :) ), and secondly, other folks would complain that fucking is too hard to do, especially when she says things like "I so wet". It's all good. I just wish there was a "Fucked" line type that would fire with any body contact so I could use vigorous to actually mean vigorous fucking. All in all though, I think the fucking/anal behavior is pretty darn good all things considered. I don't want to slight your work on animtools. On the contrary, it's fucking awesome (pun intended :) )

 

[sby]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

i could easily make a new linetype for things like:
just entering body contact
hilting/being all the way in while in body contact (could be done so only fires once per position to be like first_dt)
exiting body contact
exiting body contact after 100% vigor reached in body contact
being in body contact (that would fire a lot)
minimum resistance achieved (she is really loose)

 

[soultwist]

Re: WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 5 12/05/14, now with whipping)

I had a thought on something that I think would be nice. What if the necklaces that all the monsterbabes are wearing had some benefit? Like, if you took it off before she's broken she would hurt you and escape and you had to buy her again? And if you took it off when she's broken it stays off, she gets happy and gets a boost in love or pride? With the boost depending on how you broke her?

And also I had an idea for when the game has had more time for development. What if you also had a home to go to and you could fill it up with a number of girls like your own harem? Like, if you have broken them to docile or equivalent and get their love and pride up to 100 they will ask to come home with you?