To break a girl, you'll need to get her pride down to 0, her arousal up to 100, and then have her orgasm.gekker said:What is the general idea behind breaking a girl?
You wouldn't happen to remember if she said or thought anything when the buttons disappeared? Was the frame rate bad (you can see frame rate in the upper left by hitting ESC). You can keep your save in this situation by exiting and restarting, and if the restart leaves you in a bad situation, restart again and use the Repair option instead of Continue.gekker said:...when I tried the wedding costume on Plexia and went to equip it, all buttons disappeared and the game stalled.
Any testing is great! It would be good to see if the customers show up over time. When you play with a girl for awhile (random amount of significant events), then go back to the foyer, time will pass. As time passes, more customers will show up. Time also passes when you pimp a girl, so sometimes new customers should show up right after a pimp sessions.gekker said:Are there particular errors that you are aware of and don't want people to bother mentioning or any aspect you want tested out more than others?
MG said:You've implied that currently playing lines prevent buttons from working.
Why not halt all dialogue forcefully on press?
WeeWillie said:To break a girl, you'll need to get her pride down to 0, her arousal up to 100, and then have her orgasm.
Plexia will break in one of two ways. If she doesn't love you (Love less than 90), she will turn into a Pain Slut. To get her to orgasm, you need to shock her while she is at 0 pride and 100 arousal. The only way currently to shock her is to choke her till she passes out. When she wakes up, she'll orgasm and break. (Do you have any other ideas as to what you think should shock her into orgasm?)
If she loves you (Love 90 or greater), then she'll feel comfortable masturbating in front of you. With pride 0 and arousal 100, at some point she'll ask you for permission to masturbate. Say yes, and she'll make herself orgasm, which breaks her into a Docile Servant. This is much harder to do than the pain slut path, because most things that lower her pride also lower her love, and most things that raise her love also raise her pride. Gifts are a good way to raise love (right now the only gift is clothing, but I plan to add jewelry later). Just don't pimp her out. She'll hate you for that. Another hint, she's a demon, so there might be an outfit that she would feel most comfortable in and love you for it.
You wouldn't happen to remember if she said or thought anything when the buttons disappeared? Was the frame rate bad (you can see frame rate in the upper left by hitting ESC). You can keep your save in this situation by exiting and restarting, and if the restart leaves you in a bad situation, restart again and use the Repair option instead of Continue.
Any testing is great! It would be good to see if the customers show up over time. When you play with a girl for awhile (random amount of significant events), then go back to the foyer, time will pass. As time passes, more customers will show up. Time also passes when you pimp a girl, so sometimes new customers should show up right after a pimp sessions.
It's also good to know which character you are playing as: Male, Female, or Shemale. Keep an eye out for any mistakes regarding wording. When you are male, she should refer to you as "he", "him", "his", and "Master". When you are Female or Shemale, you should be referred to as "she", "her", and "Mistress". Also, as a female, the dildo should never cum. If it does, I'd love to know the situation.
Thanks so much for the help!
gekker said:As far as playing I ran into a couple of issues, when I tried the wedding costume on Plexia and went to equip it, all buttons disappeared and the game stalled.
That is the plan. Let me know if you think a girl (so far only Plexia) changes too much in personality when broken. It's still supposed to be Plexia. Just in one case she's let loose her inner slut (i.e. she's pretty much who she was in Trials) and in the other case she's more of an obedient demon servant. You'll notice even as a servant, pain will increase her arousal, which won't be the case for non-masochistic slaves.gekker said:I would just hope that when characters break they maintain some of "who" they were to still color them.
Yeah, this is a concern of mine, and I have yet to really tackle it. In Trials I had the Sorceress give hints. Maybe here I'll add hints from Talia the assistant.gekker said:I know you are still working on it, one thing I'd mention is that I'm a huge idiot and would never have figured out how to break Plexia if you hadn't told me. Figuring these things out has potential to be a great aspect of your mod, but drop some hints in game via dialogue for poor scrubs like myself (unless you already did and I just missed them).
I didn't want the girl to pop too fast. One trick is to keep switching things up. The first time or two that you do something new, you'll get big pride,love, and arousal changes. After you do other things, they will reset, so you make the best progress switching things up. The one small counter is fucking. Each stroke will increase her arousal a little, so keep at her and you'll get her there. I'll see what people think, and if arousal just seems too slow, I can increase the values to be quicker.gekker said:Finally it seems like it takes a while to get arousal up, unless there is a trick or particular actions that raise it faster than others.
Yeah, this is a bug that I don't know how I'm going to handle. The whole game will reset properly if you close down Flash, reopen and then select a new game. However, if you just start the game over without closing down the Loader, it will get in a mucked up state. I might need to ask Pim for help for a "clear memory" function.gekker said:Will do, anything to help out. I'll probably be sticking with male for a while. I do notice that when you try to start a new character it seems the only thing reset is the money. You still seem to retain your slave and outfits. Haven't looked if any changes to the slave persist but I will.
Nice idea. I'll look into that when I start flushing out the other girls.Sauron17011 said:I love the girl who suits the things you intend to buy in the shop, maybe give her a little Intro like:
"Hi, im your model for accesoire and clothing, feel free to test those things on me" Or sth. like that.
Every outfit needs headwear. What headwear in MoreClothing mods do you think would fit better?Sauron17011 said:The fetish costume seems to have the same hairband like the valkyrie costume. I dont if if thats on purpose, i just think it doesnt rly fit.
Great catch. It's another example of where I broke something I'd already tested. I've attached a new file you can copy, and I'll update the bundle for others.Sauron17011 said:The mod crashed when i tried the sell option. The game didnt close, but i were just able to have a normal gameplay with the bazaar lady.
I haven't seen that. When did it happen. Do you have a screen capture I can see?Sauron17011 said:the slap animation left the hand in a glitchy position, glitching between the back of the slave and her head.
WeeWillie said:I haven't seen that. When did it happen. Do you have a screen capture I can see?
Every outfit needs headwear. What headwear in MoreClothing mods do you think would fit better?
Yep! Bound arms and a gag are the next thing I was going to implement.Sauron17011 said:I would like to request a restrain option like in Slave Trainer at least bind arms would be cool.
WeeWillie said:That is the plan. Let me know if you think a girl (so far only Plexia) changes too much in personality when broken. It's still supposed to be Plexia. Just in one case she's let loose her inner slut (i.e. she's pretty much who she was in Trials) and in the other case she's more of an obedient demon servant. You'll notice even as a servant, pain will increase her arousal, which won't be the case for non-masochistic slaves.
Yeah, this is a concern of mine, and I have yet to really tackle it. In Trials I had the Sorceress give hints. Maybe here I'll add hints from Talia the assistant.
I didn't want the girl to pop too fast. One trick is to keep switching things up. The first time or two that you do something new, you'll get big pride,love, and arousal changes. After you do other things, they will reset, so you make the best progress switching things up. The one small counter is fucking. Each stroke will increase her arousal a little, so keep at her and you'll get her there. I'll see what people think, and if arousal just seems too slow, I can increase the values to be quicker.
Yeah, this is a bug that I don't know how I'm going to handle. The whole game will reset properly if you close down Flash, reopen and then select a new game. However, if you just start the game over without closing down the Loader, it will get in a mucked up state. I might need to ask Pim for help for a "clear memory" function.
Thanks again for the help!
WeeWillie said:- Piercing/jewelry as gifts
- More than one type of gag
- More clothing options for the girls such as maid, nurse, or something else specific?
- Whipping, with body marks
- Customization for the player, such as penis size, skin color, or clothing
Absolutely. The plan is each girl has her own nuances and breaks in different ways. For example, Plexia is masochistic, so she only has a value for arousal which happens to equate to pain. For other girls there will be two different values, one for arousal and one for pain. I'm sure there will be some girl that breaks into a sweet loving slave when broken through high arousal while turning into a demented freak when broken through high pain.gekker said:Have you also considered ways to break a future potential slaves with some curveballs?
So to make sure I'm clear, your vote is for me to increase the arousal rate, correct? Does anyone else out there have an opinion?gekker said:There will be balance found I'm sure, it's just that my wrist gets tired (not THAT wrist :p) if I have to perform one of the mouse actions for more than a minute or two.
Thanks so much. Hearing this helps motivate me to do more. This project is a bit too big in scope, and to tell the truth I'm kind of sick of doing it at the moment. I'm too deep in to stop now though, so your encouraging words are very well received. It's why I released the alpha version.gekker said:No man, thank you for devoting some of your freetime to cranking out some kick ass game mods.
Really? You'd like that before getting Crystal and Mysteria? That means only Plexia would be the one to wear them, since she's the only one right now implemented to wear clothing. For new outfits that aren't supported currently in MoreClothing, I need to either create the clothing myself or more likely extract it out of work other modders have done into a form usuable by MoreClothing. But if people are playing my mod, I'm here to give you what you want. If you like, point me to links of outfits others have done and I can see if I can export it. Usually the gotcha is that many outfits don't support multiple breast sizes, and it takes some work to add that.gekker said:Clothing please. Maid, Nurse, Bunny Girls, you know, the usual fetish fare.
WeeWillie said:So to make sure I'm clear, your vote is for me to increase the arousal rate, correct? Does anyone else out there have an opinion?
Really? You'd like that before getting Crystal and Mysteria? That means only Plexia would be the one to wear them, since she's the only one right now implemented to wear clothing. For new outfits that aren't supported currently in MoreClothing, I need to either create the clothing myself or more likely extract it out of work other modders have done into a form usuable by MoreClothing. But if people are playing my mod, I'm here to give you what you want. If you like, point me to links of outfits others have done and I can see if I can export it. Usually the gotcha is that many outfits don't support multiple breast sizes, and it takes some work to add that.
gekker said:New bug:
The continue option doesn't seem to work. When I click continue it hangs. The upper right screen shows files being loaded, but you never get taken to the lobby and the screen remains black. Making a new game fixes it, aside from the fact that that starts you from scratch.
I replaced all files you posted in the thread with their updated versions. Sometimes continue worked, but once it doesn't there seems to be no way to continue a game.
Again this happens when starting loader, loading up the mod, then trying to continue.
WeeWillie said:gekker said:New bug:
The continue option doesn't seem to work. When I click continue it hangs. The upper right screen shows files being loaded, but you never get taken to the lobby and the screen remains black. Making a new game fixes it, aside from the fact that that starts you from scratch.
I replaced all files you posted in the thread with their updated versions. Sometimes continue worked, but once it doesn't there seems to be no way to continue a game.
Again this happens when starting loader, loading up the mod, then trying to continue.
Hmm, do you remember what you did just before quiting? It would be great if you could PM your save file if you can find it. For me its located at C:\Users\<USERNAME>\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects\C5KFCTGD\localhost\Users\<USERNAME>\Documents\SDT\Loader.v5.40.WeeWillieBundle\Loader.swf\BAZAAR.sol
After grabbing that, you should be able to use the Repair option instead of Continue to be able to keep playing without losing most of your current progress.
I agree. I think that love should be hard to recieve, while arousal seems to raise a little too slow. ESPECIALLY if i think that i have to do thgis for multiple slaves.WeeWillie said:So to make sure I'm clear, your vote is for me to increase the arousal rate, correct? Does anyone else out there have an opinion?
Just my opinion, but no. I DONT need more clothings before the release of more slaves and more features. I would love to see more later, but i think the priority should not lay on them right now.WeeWillie said:Really? You'd like that before getting Crystal and Mysteria? That means only Plexia would be the one to wear them, since she's the only one right now implemented to wear clothing. For new outfits that aren't supported currently in MoreClothing, I need to either create the clothing myself or more likely extract it out of work other modders have done into a form usuable by MoreClothing. But if people are playing my mod, I'm here to give you what you want. If you like, point me to links of outfits others have done and I can see if I can export it. Usually the gotcha is that many outfits don't support multiple breast sizes, and it takes some work to add that.