WeeWillie Dialogues (Slave Bazaar Alpha 8.9 3/27/19) Added Sister (4 Viewers)

[astounded]

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Thanks jumbosauce. I'm not even sure what I'm going to be working on next. I'm not sure if I should make Slave Trainer better, Trials of the Sorceress better, or just start something completely new.

Buttons = Awesome.
Great improvements to slave trainer. I'd be interested in seeing how much further this could go.
Ideas:
- Buttons to pierce breasts and tongue.
- Slaps to randomly cause a passout (unknown if possible).
- Method to put her back in Angry mode if that is desired.
- Option to switch background and continue the party in other rooms.
- Now that you have buttons, Pull up and down are freed for other uses (e.g. pull down for verbal abuse and pulled up for slapping).
- Potential for her to end up as fully compliant and submissive with a new background (e.g. bedroom).

I'm sure you can think of more!
-A

 

[WeeWillie]

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Thanks astounded. So are you voting that I improve slave trainer over TotS, or over making a completely new dialog?

It seems like some people enjoy the simulation aspect of Slave Trainer were they have lots of options in their control but little story, while others enjoy a story progression with interesting personalities like in Trials of the Sorceress. I'm trying to gauge which group is larger. I make the dialogs for myself, but I mostly I make them for you guys, and I'd like to please the largest number of people I can. I'd love to hear from anyone who cares.

 

[astounded]

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Thanks astounded. So are you voting that I improve slave trainer over TotS, or over making a completely new dialog?

It seems like some people enjoy the simulation aspect of Slave Trainer were they have lots of options in their control but little story, while others enjoy a story progression with interesting personalities like in Trials of the Sorceress. I'm trying to gauge which group is larger. I make the dialogs for myself, but I mostly I make them for you guys, and I'd like to please the largest number of people I can. I'd love to hear from anyone who cares.

For clarity, I like a bit of everything but think that the simulation +progression of Slave Trainer augmented by some of my prior suggestions is my personal preference. All work is good work though.

 

[StevieC]

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another problem I've encountered with the Slave Trainer dialogue is that when I try to select "fuck" mode, the screen fades to black but doesn't return FROM black until i click the button for anal mode, so i never get to see the action in "fuck" mode.

 

[WeeWillie]

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another problem I've encountered with the Slave Trainer dialogue is that when I try to select "fuck" mode, the screen fades to black but doesn't return FROM black until i click the button for anal mode, so i never get to see the action in "fuck" mode.

I don't see that problem. Do you know what frame rate you are having when this happens (Press ESC to see the frame rate in the upper left corner)? If the frame rate gets below 10 or so, I've see the position changes fail. One way to get your frame rate back up is to go to Options-> Options Tab -> Clear All. It seems like cum, and especially spit, can cause large frame rate lags. I'm debating adding code to my version of Dialogue Actions to automatically clear spit and cum if the frame rate drops too low, but I'm not sure if that is technically feasible yet.

 

[darkwanderer]

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The buttons improvements are just great!

We can enjoy the story and have all the options available!

An idea about progression/linearity of the dialogue that could benefit from the buttons options: Maybe some buttons should be unlock with the progression of the dialog (like, suggested by astounded, piercing or hard slaps that could make her pass out) ... that would "reward" the player for the progression.

But all I have to say is that it is really really super great!

 

[jumbosauce]

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My vote's for new story-based stuff!

And Darkwanderer's idea: "An idea about progression/linearity of the dialogue that could benefit from the buttons options: Maybe some buttons should be unlock with the progression of the dialog (like, suggested by astounded, piercing or hard slaps that could make her pass out) ... that would "reward" the player for the progression." sounds cool too.

But do whatever you feel good about, I'd rather you don't feel burned-out so we can see more content overall. :)

 

[kjon]

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The buttons are awesome!! It lets you enjoy the dialogue even more than before, thank you sir!

And my vote is also for a new dialogue(s), it's great what you've done with these ones, but it also would be nice to see something new, and the suggestions of "rewards" for the player would be an excellent addition to them.

I'll be expecting anything you do, great work!

 

[gekker]

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Definitely go story/character based IMO. You're too good at creating characters and dialogue not to play that up in your mods. But as was said, do what you want to do in the end. Trials is definitely one of the best mods out though.

 

[WeeWillie]

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Hey gang,

I've decided what my next dialogue will be. It's a bit ambitious, so it'll be awhile before I ever finish it, but I'd like to get some feedback from you guys before I get in too deep. If you like either Trials or Slave Trainer, I'd love to hear your answer to:

1. Who was your favorite character in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings, and why?

2. Are there any other characters in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings who you'd like to see again? If so, what facet of that character did you like (e.g. her look, her personality, her clothing?)

3. Do you like playing as a lesbian or a shemale (e.g. Mistress instead of Master), or would you just play as a guy?

4. Do you like to be more loving and pleasurable to the girls, more rough and torturing to them, or do you like the option to choose either path?

Thank you for your input!

 

[ColdMetal]

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1. Who was your favorite character in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings, and why?
Aurora. I loved her naughty thoughts, and of course I loved whenever she PUUUURRRRED. That shyt put a huge smile on my face. Kitty cosplay not even my thing but it was well done. Need moar cosplay characters =D

2. Are there any other characters in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings who you'd like to see again? If so, what facet of that character did you like (e.g. her look, her personality, her clothing?)
Aurora. I forget her name but the Demon chick from Trials. Plexia I think it was. Also the Succubus. It would be dope if she came back so mesmerized from you getting her off from Trials that she was willing to be your plaything straight from the start this time. Jus an idea idk. Anyway, they had the most personality.

3. Do you like playing as a lesbian or a shemale (e.g. Mistress instead of Master), or would you just play as a guy?
I always played as a Mistress with the Dominatrix loader (forget who made the it, but it's dope).

4. Do you like to be more loving and pleasurable to the girls, more rough and torturing to them, or do you like the option to choose either path?
Rough n Torture sounds about right to me. ;D

Thank you for your input!
Yea no prob. Take your time, looking forward to the project.

 

[lohengramm]

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Seconded on Aurora being my favorite.

Also seconded on the "rough and torture" segments.

 

[gekker]

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Hey gang,

I've decided what my next dialogue will be. It's a bit ambitious, so it'll be awhile before I ever finish it, but I'd like to get some feedback from you guys before I get in too deep. If you like either Trials or Slave Trainer, I'd love to hear your answer to:

1. Who was your favorite character in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings, and why?

I want to start by saying this is not an easy question for Trials. One reason why trials is so great in my opinion is the great you job giving each girl a distinct and imaginative personality. All the way through I had a lot of fun just seeing how they all reacted to what was going on and figuring out how to "pass the level". So if I have to choose one as a favorite, it isn't because the others are in anyway bad, I liked them all. But if one stood out for me it was definitely Plexia. Her dialogue was erotic as hell and I have a thing for demonesses. 8) Honorable mention to Crystal and Aurora, that dirty dirty girl. ;D

2. Are there any other characters in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings who you'd like to see again? If so, what facet of that character did you like (e.g. her look, her personality, her clothing?)

From Trials I felt the strongest characters for me were Crystal, Aurora, Plexia, and Lily. I enjoyed those levels the most. Mainly because of the character dialogue really standing out. Kudos to anyone that takes their time to write a dialogue and share it, but some just throw things straight out of porno actresses mouth or some bad hentai flick. It's amazing how much a few well thought out lines really flesh out an avatar and adds to the immersion in the scenario.

Crystal had the whole goth zombie girl vibe going on and that is kind of hot in my book. Of course between that and my love for the Dead Snow dialogue shared elsewhere probably makes me a closet necro. Something really hot about a zombie moaning for a helping of semen rather than brains.

I liked Aurora's character design and loved the dynamic of her struggling to maintain her dignity in the face of escalating degradation before succumbing to her inner submissive. Her dialogue really bought this out. I also love the attention to detail that she even comments about your eagerness if you cut off her intro with an insertion. That's just attention to detail right there. I will confess that I like many of them better when there is a little fight to them, so i would linger in the lower to mid affection levels before finishing her stage to hear more of the lukewarm reactions and stern expressions.

Plexia for all the reasons I listed her as my favorite. Great design, love the hair and the skin color and those stockings. Also since I like my characters a little saucy (no pun intended) I think she was the perfect mix. The avatar could be rough with her, but she's into it and even teasing antagonizing him a bit in that "that all you got @&$#ker?! kind of way. Again just love her reactions to what the player is doing. It's sexy because the character seems still very much in control even though she's letting herself be used. Kind of like Desire-lite, all the fun with 100% less soul stealing. I'll confess that many a play session has stopped at Plexia... I'll leave it at that.

Really liked Lily. Has a spacy ghost vibe to her and suckering her (no pun intended) into thinking you are her ex-lover was pretty neat. Her dialogue gets pretty hot when she's aroused but it's also a bit fun to mess around early and see her reactions when you're not exactly doing your best "Thomas". "Why so soon?" "What are you doooOOooooing"?! 8)

In Trainer I pretty much just use Erika. I like the amount of fight and spirit she has in her and the level of disgust she conveys. Hawt. I actually don't like when she starts getting "broken". Nothing kills the mood like...tears. When she's yelling, hitting, pushing off, giving the stink eye and telling me how gross it is it's all good though.

Becomes a bit "too real" at that point since while I'm a big fan of rape fantasy, not so big on when it starts to mirror actual rape too closely. But that's just my opinion and if anything a testament to good dialogue and scene making if you can actually make me feel like a scumbag. :)

Didn't like Playthings as much as it was a bit too controlled. Like to be able to experiment. The girls also seemed a bit more like window dressing. Still a great mod, just I like your other two better for allowing more experimentation and giving great feedback to the player actions.

3. Do you like playing as a lesbian or a shemale (e.g. Mistress instead of Master), or would you just play as a guy?

No shemales or females, I'd prefer the char to be a hug. With copious semen reserves. Like he drinks Big Gulps and takes Zinc Supplements all day, waiting for this moment....

4. Do you like to be more loving and pleasurable to the girls, more rough and torturing to them, or do you like the option to choose either path?

I like the option. In trial I like to see how fast I can get Sprout to orgasm. It's like a minigame. Then I sometimes I like to see how fast and how many ways I can get her to run away. Again, another minigame. To quote that Hannibal Lecter's crazy ass neighbor from silence of the lambs, "LOOK AT THE BLOOD"! *Sprout has fled*

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Hope this helps, hope others contribute. Whatever you do I'm sure it will be great.

 

[Knack]

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Note: I mostly played Trainer, because to me it was the scenario that appealed the most.

1. Who was your favorite character in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings, and why?

I gravitated towards Trixie and Erika, mainly due to aesthetic reasons - I've never really liked how the alternate noses/eyebrows looked in SDT. I do understand the need to make the characters stand out from each other though.

2. Are there any other characters in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings who you'd like to see again? If so, what facet of that character did you like (e.g. her look, her personality, her clothing?)

Not perhaps a specific character, but I found that the various personality types covered a nice spectrum in general (personal aesthetic niggles notwithstanding), and as far as clothing goes, a little skankiness never hurt anyone ;)

3. Do you like playing as a lesbian or a shemale (e.g. Mistress instead of Master), or would you just play as a guy?

I personally dug the lesbian option, so if you're prepared to expend the effort to take it into account again, know that it'll be appreciated by some!

4. Do you like to be more loving and pleasurable to the girls, more rough and torturing to them, or do you like the option to choose either path?

I liked the progression element that included both approaches. Above all, the interactivity + ability to affect the characters' psyche and mood was probably the thing that stood out the most, and is the element I'd like to see further developed- perhaps in a less "linear" direction with one clear end state. It'd be fun to see how different treatment would build trust?/fear?, seeing what'd happen when suddenly switching demeanour... feel free to disregard this if it's unfeasible, just spitballing here.

Thank you for your input!

And thank you for making the best dialogue mod out there!

 

[elebram]

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Sorry, I've a question.
I'm looking for more mods, in mods folder, and I've find more clother, so like a rope, are this options in the game? How I can load that in the game?

 

[WeeWillie]

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Sorry, I've a question.
I'm looking for more mods, in mods folder, and I've find more clother, so like a rope, are this options in the game? How I can load that in the game?

Do you mean the "Hanging" background under Slave Trainer? I was being a bit dark and tried out a neck hanging pose, but it had some issues so I never fully implemented it. Sometimes I let my inner demons loose, and was even looking into adding an asphyxiation counter for the neck pose and holding past the pass out point for a "game over" situation, but yeah, that's a bit dark. If that's something people really want, I can look back into adding it, but probably only if a few people say they would like it.

 

[ZipMip]

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1. Who was your favorite character in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings, and why?

I liked Crystal because of the uniqueness of her trial. It was different compared to the others. Her...circumstances were very "attractive" as well.

2. Are there any other characters in Trials, Trainer, or Playthings who you'd like to see again? If so, what facet of that character did you like (e.g. her look, her personality, her clothing?)

I also liked Aurora, being able to re-dress her in a different outfit was a nice turn-on.

3. Do you like playing as a lesbian or a shemale (e.g. Mistress instead of Master), or would you just play as a guy?

Guy. I'm not really into shemales or lesbian SDT stuff.

4. Do you like to be more loving and pleasurable to the girls, more rough and torturing to them, or do you like the option to choose either path?

I felt that Plexia was very boring, as I could just afk-fuck her and eventually move on. I liked how most of the girls have special qualities which makes it very fun to play.

Extra notes:

I haven't beat Desire. It's just too confusing, even the queues made by Erika are hard to figure out. I always end up making the guy cum.

Maybe when you win the game you could go back and re-do certain girls if you want? Never made a dialogue, so not sure if it's possible.

I think Trials > Mistress > Slave Trainer

Trials had a variety of unique girls, I loved the plot. Wouldn't mind a trials of the sorceress 2. Maybe look into changing modes/hand positions in the next one? Weren't a lot of handjobs, no option to change hand position (Would be a nice touch, probably a lot of code)

Mistress had a plot line. Liked how I got to pick the girl, each with unique personalities. Fucking the mistress was nice, as well.

Slave trainer felt like it was just a Sandbox mode of Mistress. The dialogues weren't really unique for each person, and the extra positions felt a little weird. No ending (Unless I've never gotten to it!) either.


Thanks for putting your time into making these. Really nice over-all. I love the standalone loader as well. Any ETA on your next release, or sneak peeks/hints to what it's about? Can't wait.

 

[ThatOneDewd]

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Love the dialogue, all three of them, but I have a question.

I downloaded the bundle, right. And...how come none of the girls, are actually getting the cock in their mouth? It looks like they are, but they aren't? I ran into this problem, and like...Whenever I do the Mistress Plaything or the Slave Trainer, they don't engulf the cock. It just looks like it, and my pleasure meter stays at 0%.

 

[WeeWillie]

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Love the dialogue, all three of them, but I have a question.

I downloaded the bundle, right. And...how come none of the girls, are actually getting the cock in their mouth? It looks like they are, but they aren't? I ran into this problem, and like...Whenever I do the Mistress Plaything or the Slave Trainer, they don't engulf the cock. It just looks like it, and my pleasure meter stays at 0%.

I'm not sure I"m following your issue. Are you making sure to wait for More Clothing to finish loading (you'll see the green message in the top right corner)? Then do you make sure to select the dialog from the custom menu? Old dialogs from previous sessions run, but not properly, so you need to reload them from the Custom menu (my latest mod will automatically clear the last dialog to get rid of that issue, but it will be awhile before I can release it).

If these don't fix the issue, could you give me more detailed information? I'm not exactly sure what problem you are seeing.

 

[WeeWillie]

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Thank you ColdMetal, lohengramm, gekker, knack, and ZipMip for the feedback. Sounds like Aurora was a clear favorite, but for different reasons, and Plexia was popular (except for ZipMip, who throws a monkey wrench into everything :P :D)

I haven't beat Desire. It's just too confusing, even the queues made by Erika are hard to figure out. I always end up making the guy cum.

The key to desire is to switch things up. You can do the same thing, such as undress her, over and over until Erika says to stop. Then just keep switching up. Desire will always ask for more of what you just did, so you can slap her, then undress her, then slap her, then get vigorous to 100%, then slap her, etc. Once she responds to something, do something different.

Maybe when you win the game you could go back and re-do certain girls if you want? Never made a dialogue, so not sure if it's possible.

I thought about that, but it would take some work, and it sounds like people would rather I put energy into a new dialog.

Slave trainer felt like it was just a Sandbox mode of Mistress. The dialogues weren't really unique for each person, and the extra positions felt a little weird. No ending (Unless I've never gotten to it!) either.

That's exactly what is was: a sandbox. Some people prefer it, but sounds like most prefer story based.

Thanks for putting your time into making these. Really nice over-all. I love the standalone loader as well. Any ETA on your next release, or sneak peeks/hints to what it's about? Can't wait.

The next release is going to be awhile, because I have a lot of foundation work to do. I might add features back into Trainer or Trials as I build them just to test out, but the new dialog will take some time. Since it seems people are split between sandbox style and story style, my plan is to kind of merge the two. It's going to be a slave bazaar, where you buy, break (different for each girl) and maybe sell them back once broken. Imagine Slave Trainer style but with each girl being different like in Trials and with different methods of breaking them. You may need to be brutal to some, or loving to others (or maybe an option for both and they just break differently). Also, I've implemented a save game feature, so you can save your progress and continue a session another day. Once I get a foundation in, I'll be able to just add more girls over time, and you should be able to just keep playing from your "save game" and not be reset to the beginning each time like in Trials.

If anyone has suggestions for things you like to see in such a scenario, let me know. Here are some more questions for you :D
1. Would you like to see a return of Erika to guide you through the bazaar, making this a true Trials 2?
2. If it is a Trials 2, would it be important to you that what you did in Trials be referenced in Trials 2 (i.e. I'd go back and update Trials to save off data. For example, if Aurora is in the bazaar, her hair would be cut off only if you cut it off in Trials.)
3. Right now I'm trying to implement whip marks and sounds. Would this interest you? It's taking some effort, and I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to load body mods via dialogue.
4. How long should it take to break a girl? Longer, shorter, or the same amount of time as it took to get a girl to orgasm in Trials? Note that you'll be able to save your progress, so you wouldn't have to get through all the girls in one play session.
5. Does a Slave Bazaar even interest you? Do you think I'm barking up the wrong tree?